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Over the phone
- 26th October 1997
Andy Aldridge (Brightest
High)
AA: What have you being doing lately, you sort of disappeared?
KS: Yeah I did for a while...there was a period after the last
EP I did (The Planes) where I just
wasn't writing anything I was happy with, the records I'd done always
had this feeling coming off them - to my mind anyway - and I just wasn't
feeling anything strongly enough, I suppose, so to me there was no point
in making any records. I remember a lot of people telling me at the time
that "I was fucking mad". I didn't really care...there's a nice
theme running through those first few singles and the album/EP. I'm glad
I stopped making music at the time.
I've been extraordinarily lucky with the way people have liked my stuff...someone
liking Boyfriend
in a very personal way and going out of their way to do something for
the band. I would have betrayed that trust, and to be honest this is the
only sort of music I know how to make.
AA: What's your new album like?
KS: Jesus it's great...it flows. It's a weird thing to try and
explain but if you write a really good song it flows naturally...it's
effortless...almost writes itself.
I went back to live in Ireland two years ago and I started to write songs
again and it was like a hell or heaven, I'm not sure which, because I
said I'd never make records again and suddenly I felt "I'd love people
to hear this". People would love this...people who never heard my
stuff before and people who still liked
Understand. I've just taken the music on to somewhere different.
AA: What's the difference between the old Brian and the new
Brian?
KS: A Sense Of Humour...that's something I think I needed to
find, I don't take myself quite that seriously anymore...thank God. I'm
not as miserable as I was in my early twenties, maybe it's a phase people
go through at a certain point, you're quite happy being miserable and
you don't want anyone to get in the way of your being almost underwater.
The new stuff has that warmth to it that I always look for in records
but it's Pop Music. Somewhere in-between The La's and The Blue Nile. There's
a lot of myself on this record...about what I feel about things... now...I'm
quite curious as to what people will think, it might make them feel a
little uncomfortable, and I like that because I've said things about the
way I see life now...and I haven't heard any thing like this said on a
record before.
I just did it for me really.
AA: When's it out?
KS: We were about a week away from finishing it and the recording
was suspended. It's out of my hands now, someone else will decide if it
gets finished, I've done everything I possibly can to make the record
and it's not my decision.
AA: What are you listening to at the moment?
KS: Lots of stuff...I love Stina Nordenstam's "Then She
Closed Her Eyes" LP, and Ron Sexsmith. I still love Miracle Legion.
The Irish bands The Revenants and The Sewing Room. Lucinda Williams (not
to be confused with Victoria Williams). East River Pipe. Autchre. Orbital.
Lambchop. Sparklehorse, Rex, Popsicle
Two years ago I heard the most fantastic record by an American singer
called Iris De Ment, the album is called "My Life", If you liked
Understand
go out and buy this album, I think she kinda wrote it about the death
of her parents and a few other things, the melodies are great but she
added something very personal to it, it has some other quality...it's
just so beautiful, it kind of helpled me get back into music again. A
song called "Calling For You" deserves a special mention. Hear
it. It's vaguely country music and I write pop music ...but it's one of
my records.
I kinda love Lucinda Williams and Iris De Ment...they're slow to release
records but you know when they do.. you're going to get something very
special.
AA: Fave songs at the moment?
KS: Maybe not at the moment but I loved Billy Bragg's "Tank
Park Salute", a song he wrote about his father - grief is a very
hard thing to put into a song...I mean you can turn up like Pearl Jam
and growl, but to make it work quietly is a much harder thing.
I don't want to mis-quote them but there's a wonderful line about seeing
his father's name in "the memorial book" and "the commiserations
of all your friends and all your relations". There's that feeling
of questioning things - life or something - taking a moment to stop and
reflect, Arthur Miller does that in all his best plays, and I think the
best songs do too. I think Billy Bragg was a tank driver...I know he was
in the army...maybe that's what the title means...I don't really need
to know. The song took lumps out of me.
Still fascinated by Miracle Legions "All For The Best" from
their "Surprise, Surprise" LP, it still blows me away, a friend
taped John Peel playing it years ago, hypnotic drum track breaking up
a beautifully written day in the life of a little kid - "watched
my brother cutting grass outside". I met someone from Radiohead at
a party recently and they're huge Miracle Legion fans. There's a warmth
in Miracle Legion (in something like "Gigantic Transatlantic Phonecall"
or "Say Hello") that I recognise in my own stuff.
AA: You must see a big difference in you record Label, Setanta,
since you last worked with them...Edwyn Collins...Divine Comedy...all
the hits they've had.
KS: I can't really fault Setanta, I doubt I'd be tolerated anywhere
else, even if they don't let me finish this album, it will be financial
reasons that stop them.. not due to any lack of any committment on their
part.
I mean I did completely fuck them over before - in stopping when I did
- I mean I didn't talk to anyone in Setanta for maybe three years, then
I rang them up out of the and within a few weeks I was back in the studio
and I'd been given a new publishing deal. There is no other record label
where that would happen. We were lost in 1991 with Understand
we didn't fit in with any Irish band scene...we were complete outsiders
and they gave us a home.
I suppose I've known Keith Cullen a while - I don't really know the other
people who work for him as well as I know him - but they're young and
bright and they choose to go to work every day in Elephant and Castle
and I'm sure they could work for snobbier companies, for better money,
in swankier locations, but they choose to work there, so they must be
into what they do.
AA: So what's keeps you making music?
KS: I have an album written to follow this one - I suppose just
really small things, I got a few letters when
Understand came out - yeah a lot of people heard Understand
and a certain amount where moved by it...and a few wrote...and they're
the people that make a difference...that make you think "Maybe I'm
not that shit after all". Never underestimate the difference that
makes...I don't know...I used to think "Is anyone actually hearing
what I'm saying on this song", there is stuff on Understand
I thought "Jesus...is anyone hearing what I'm saying". You just
record a song and you send it out into that void and hope someone hears
it and understands. I sound like the typical self-obsessed songwriter
I know but it's that quality of "giving yourself away" that
has always endeared bands and songwriters to me (like Pete Shelley), I
think that's how you get people to go out and buy your Digipack single,
two weeks in a row, they just have that connection with you. My favourite
bands had that connection with me.
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